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LankManDan Is Quitting YouTube??? | Objectively Bad Podcast #83
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Welcome to the 83rd Episode of the Objectively Bad Podcast!
In todays episode we announce the sad news that LankManDan is quitting YouTube and will only be streaming subpar GTA content from now on. Sorry to disappoint you all with the shocking news that we couldn't upload an episode on April fools this year and this is the next best thing.
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Intro
SPEAKER_02Hello everyone, welcome back to the Objectively Worst podcast. Today it's a worse version of Dan and a normal version of Chad back at you again with the white vans. How how how how how how are we doing my man?
SPEAKER_00I'm doing good. I will say, Dad, your your your voice sounds a little strained.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, may I say it's a little horse.
SPEAKER_00It's a little horse.
SPEAKER_02A pony, you could say.
SPEAKER_00I at that instant my brain was like, what if I just threw a little P and G little horse in there? You could you could we'll see if I remember to do it. Um Yeah, you you're sounding like like you've been really working those vocal cords.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, that they've been the there have been I was gonna say holy fuck. I am coaching.
SPEAKER_00You could do this, I believe in you.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna say that they've been strained again, but you already use the word strained, and I don't like using the same word like in multiple concurrent sentences. I feel like it I feel like when you do the English on like grade five for teachers, like don't use the same word over and over, use different diction, you know. Um it's been it's it's been put through a pile driver. Hmm. That's a turn.
Dan’s Quitting YouTube
SPEAKER_00I there's been rumors going around by literally no one but me that you might be quitting YouTube.
SPEAKER_02No chat. I wanted to take today's podcast, uh, the best platform for announcement of this magnitude, to say that uh those rumors are correct. Uh I'm gonna be leaving the YouTube game behind. Uh the channel's gonna be deleted in 72 hours. I'm gonna be moving exclusively to kick.tv. I'm gonna be changing my name to Dan the Alpha Male blank. Oh god. Uh I'm gonna start going to the gym 24-7, picking up women on the street, and April Falls, guys. Physically? April April Falls, guys. Um that's not happening. It's not happening. Um even though it's April fucking 8th when this is uploaded, you you got you got fooled. Um, uh the reason why Chad is coming up with these ungodly unjust rumors is because I have been streaming a lot the past few days. Uh, I think over the past so today is Tuesday uh Monday as I'm recording this. It was it was Sunday yesterday, Saturday the day before that, and Friday the day before that. Hopefully you know how weeks work.
SPEAKER_00That's how weeks work.
SPEAKER_02And over those three days, I think I've streamed about like I think I've streamed over 24 hours in the past three days. Damn. Uh, which is way more than I've ever done before. If you've kept up with my channel, you know I I suck at streaming consistently and for long hours. But I've I've broken that streak recently because of an event that's been taking place called the Neighborhood Watch uh for GTA Online. It's a little thing Rockstar put on where they invited some creators to do Twitch drops, which if you don't know what Twitch drops are, if you have a Twitch account and you have a Rockstar account and you made them go on, then you can get some free rewards by watching. Um god. Uh and people have gotten up to like a million dollars in a free outfit from what from watching my streams. And I've benefited massively because I don't know exactly how many different creators are taking part in this event, but it doesn't seem to be a huge amount because I'm getting a lot of viewers, and when I look through the GTA category on Twitch, there's kind of like rarely anyone else that has the Twitch drops on because it's a thing you have to be invited to, you can't just turn them on as a random person. Uh and there doesn't seem to be many people with them. It's kind of me, TGG, who's a bigger Australian GTA streamer, YouTuber. Um, and there's a few other people, but of course, the time I stream, a lot of Americans have started to go to bed and Europeans are asleep. So a lot of those people that may have dropped aren't on. So when I'm streaming, I kind of get the lion's share of all the views. And it's been kind of crazy. It's it's a lot more difficult to stop streaming when like 8,000 people are watching you. So you kind of just keep going. Even if you haven't eaten for 12 hours, uh you're you're uh and you're dying.
SPEAKER_00So I get a text from Dan. Let's see, my Saturday morning. So this is after your Friday stream. Yes. And you're like, holy shit, uh, I just had like one of my most successful streams. I peaked at 3k people, and I was like, that's awesome. That's that's really cool. I think you said you're roughly like you were like top GTA streamer at at the moment in time you were streaming, yeah, and also like top 60 like streamers, period, at the moment you were streaming. Yep, which is crazy. I'm like, that's that's wild. There's no way he tops this. Sunday morning rolls around. I get a text and he's like, actually, I just peaked at 11,000 people. Also, I haven't eaten in 12 hours. Yeah. Yeah. This man is crazy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think technically the peak was 12 and a half thousand. That was a dual stream, though. So on Twitch, you can you can the way it works is you go to someone's stream and you it literally has the word knock. You knock on their stream, and if they let you in, you basically dual stream together so you can bind your viewerships. Um, but you still keep your own separate viewership at the same time. So if someone's watching my stream, it does say they're watching my stream, they see my chat, they see my perspective, but the views are shared between me and the other person. So you see like your viewer number and the shared viewer number together in your like statistics, basically.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So for the first eight hours of that stream, I was by myself, got to around eight and a half thousand, and then for the final, sorry, for the first ten hours, and then for the final three hours, I was dual streaming with TGG, that other GTA creator. And I kept at about 8,000, he had about like three and a half. I think we peaked at like 12 and a half or something together. And we were like, I was number one GTA streamer, he was number two, but combined, obviously, we were number one. And then I don't know exactly where we were on the overall Twitch leaderboard, but I checked earlier that evening when I was at about 7.1k viewers, I was top 50. So if you combine our viewerships to be like 12 and a halfk, there's a good chance we could have been like top 20, top 15. I don't know, we could have been very high up there, which is insane. Um, it's very very, very ridiculous because Twitch is known as a very difficult platform to get seen because by default, when you go into like any category, it's sorted by viewers high to low. So you see the biggest people at the top and then down. Whereas YouTube, you'll sometimes get recommended a video from a smaller creator every now and then. It's not just the most popular thing, otherwise, it would just be every Mr. Beast video constantly. Uh so like what you notice is that the more viewers you get on Twitch, the easier it is to get more viewers, and it kind of keeps going and going and going. It obviously plateaus at a certain point. Like, once I got to around 7.5 to 8k, it started to slow down a lot. But still very nuts and kind of surreal to be honest.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, it's it's pretty sweet. So Dan's done recording videos, he's just all all in on the streaming.
SPEAKER_02Moving to the streams 12 hours a day for the rest of my life. I'm gonna be so healthy.
SPEAKER_00Oh god. No, I mean no, you're still making YouTube videos. In case anyone can't tell that we're joking, he's gonna still keep doing it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but I do want to honestly, this has been a good experience though, because I have always wanted to get into streaming like way more consistently and for long hours and making them more fun. I think this has been a really good excuse, I guess you could say, to practice that. So I think even after this event ends, I will do my best to keep up streaming like way more often because it's a nice little side thing to do against the videos. Uh keeps more of like the I guess more core audience engaged, people that like care for me rather than just the content, I guess. They get to interact more. They have this text of speech, they can ask questions, they can hear me roast them for their dumb fucking questions. You know, it's a fun bonding experience.
SPEAKER_00It's also while you record for a video, anyways, you can like you can stream the whole time. Yeah, presumably.
SPEAKER_02Or do you record the whole time you stream or uh not always, not always, no, it does depend. Okay. Um, so like when I was record when I was doing the long stream, I didn't record, but then when TGG got on, we did a heist together and I recorded that just in case I wanted to upload it on my second channel. Sure. Um, there are some times where I will start a stream intentionally trying to make a video out of that stream. There are other times, like the past few days, where I'm just going on there just to fuck around.
SPEAKER_00Just to stream.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And then there'll also be times where I don't stream and because there's a video. Sometimes videos don't work on stream as well. Sure. Um, and then others work better on stream. So it'll be a mix of both. I've done a poll before asking if people would like videos to be recorded on or off stream, and I think it was like 60% preferred off. So I will definitely be keeping a balance when it comes to that.
SPEAKER_00That's fair. I also think some of them, like grinding Kayo Perico 50 million times, isn't necessarily that interesting. No. But sometimes you just need to do it for a video. Um so that stuff is more fun.
SPEAKER_02Like at the moment, sort of the big uh thing about my streams right now is they are slowly moving towards the goal of me having a hundred million dollars on the broke to bolin account. That's kind of why what I've been doing in the streams. Um, so it's the streams give me a good excuse to sort of work towards this video. I'm not recording me making this money, but the plan is to get to, I'm at 40 mil right now. The plan is to get to maybe like I don't know, 50, 60, 70, haven't exactly worked it out on stream. And then the rest of the way I'll record as a video. And I'm planning to like, for the final video, broke the ball in episode 100. Little little sneak peek. The idea I have in my head is I'm gonna make it a two-parter. So part one is gonna be grinding out the final however many million I want to get to 100. I'm gonna basically make it a huge video going back to all the different businesses and heists and missions I've done throughout the series and revisiting them sort of for the final time. Uh end of that video, I'll get to 100 million. I'll sort of say, like, hey, next video gonna come out in a week or two. I'm gonna be doing a big spending spree. Leave your comments below for the things you want me to buy the most that I haven't already. And then the next video, big spending spree, buy all the things. You know, people want me to, I want to finish off with buying the golden jet, which is 10 million dollars. It's absolutely fucking useless, but it was um it's sort of the thing I said on episode one, that's what I want to end the series with, and it's what I'm gonna end the series with. Finish buying that, and then dust off that boy finito.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Alright. I think it's a fun idea. I'm here for it.
SPEAKER_02And I plan to hopefully have that done before the World Cup, which is when I'm going to see my favorite boy here.
SPEAKER_00It's me.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
Dan’s Massive Stream
SPEAKER_00Um, alright. I I got I got questions. I'll I'll start with this specific weekend of streaming, and then I'll probably try to move on to just streaming in general.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00Um I guess the first thing is do you think there was anything in particular about this weekend that caused the amount of streamers you had? Obviously, you had the event going on. That's mainly do you think there was anything else? Okay.
SPEAKER_02I think it's I think it's mainly the event. I did stream a little bit more leading up to this event, I think, sort of in preparation for just trying to get back into it. So I streamed, um so it's currently the 6th of April. I streamed 16th of March, 18th, uh, 18th of March, 22nd of March, uh 26th of March, 28th of March, 1st of April. So I streamed like five times within the couple of weeks leading up to it. Just like get the ball rolling again, get people familiar with the stream, I guess. And then 3rd of April was when you know it started, really. Uh so I think I think a bit of the preparation helped to get people back into knowing that I'm streaming. Um and then it like realistically, it was mainly the drops that brought a lot of people over to Twitch specifically. Because Twitch before that, I mean, in those like four or five streams I did sort of the weeks prior, on Twitch, I think the max viewers I got was like 90, and I was averaging like 40 or 50.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So the reason why everyone came over was the drops. I think it was a sort of perfect storm of the drops are enabled and people like free stuff. Plus, the fact that not many other people seem to have access to the drops, slash at least not many people in my time zone seem to have access to the drops. And then thirdly, at least for that first day, uh, I know TGG started a stream, but his internet was kind of breaking, so he couldn't stream that first day really at all. So I kind of a lot of viewers he may have got, I got. Yeah. And I think honestly, I it's difficult to tell, you know, the universe timelines, right? But I think if he streamed that first day, I wouldn't have been successful even the days after, because a lot of people would have been waiting for his stream. Whereas because they came to me, followed me first, and I tended to stream earlier, even when he streamed the next two days, he got on at like 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 p.m. I started like 12 p.m., 1 p.m. Yeah. So people would come to me first and then they'd just stay. Because a lot of people just turn on the stream, put on the side, and just go do something else or play or something. So it was, I think I just did a lot of things right. I started my stream early, I kept it up for a long time. I was engaging enough for the people who wanted to watch and not annoying enough for the people who just didn't care too much. I guess I mean there's there was a few obvious few haters and trolls. Some of them were really some of them were really funny. I honestly quite enjoy haters and trolls because they're generally entertaining. Um there was one guy I was doing, I was tell telling you before the stream on yesterday's stream, we were doing some races, and one race was it took us an hour, never finished it because it was like a troll map where you had to try and figure out how to escape. Fucking impossible. And this one guy came in chat, and he was just like, he just kept saying like how miserable I was. I was like, I'm just like chilling listening to music. What do you mean? And I can't even remember half the shit he said, but he's basically just saying you're your miserable virgin. Um, you you could never you could never like live up to TGG or something. I'm like, okay, but I am friends with him, but I have them on Discord and we streamed together for three hours last night.
SPEAKER_00Like, I was gonna say, like, you guys are buddies, like it's not even like it's a fucking competition. You work you work together like semi-often.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like we're in the we're in the same field, like uh it was just really funny. He was like, You're so you're so miserable and sad in life. I'm like, yeah, I'm getting paid to play GTA for a living. What a what a sad existence I have. Damn.
SPEAKER_00I just imagine it's like this guy just like yelling at the computer, like, you're nothing, you're worthless, and it's just cutting to you, just like vibing in a car, just like singing music, like having like a good time.
SPEAKER_02Like, yeah, I didn't have a big smile on my face because I've been streaming for six hours and I was on a map that was annoying me, but like I I was mostly chilling, and it was saying, like, he was saying, like, I can tell I'm getting to you, and I was just like, I I I I said something along the lines of like, Do you have struggle with having women around you because you can't read emotions correctly? Because like, I don't know what about my face is saying you got to me. This is funny.
SPEAKER_00It's it's the mad, I think it's mad men, I could be entirely wrong. It's like the John Ham in in the elevator, and the guy's like, I feel bad for you, and and then John Ham just going like, I don't think of you at all. That's just you.
SPEAKER_02You're like basically that like and I know I know the the best way to deal with any sort of hate or trolls not to respond to it. I just get I I have fun responding to it. I I can't help myself.
SPEAKER_00You love responding to it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I can't, I can't. I I love a little bit of a fight. I can't help it. Sure. Um gotta real fighter over here. Yeah, it's also like when when there's not much else uh interesting happening in chat, having something like that come come up gives me something to talk about, you know. Yeah, it's almost good. Yeah, it's it's like sometimes and like he was chatting a lot, like he he was in the stream and he was typing like a lot, and the whole time I'm like, you're just kind of giving me engagement and money and something to talk about. You're kind of just helping me if anything, so thanks, I guess.
SPEAKER_00Like, yeah, because because he probably paid money to say some of those comments.
SPEAKER_02No, no, but it but him being the stream, he would he would have had to he would have had to watch ads.
SPEAKER_00Okay, no, he didn't. I don't know if he did any like because if you do the like text to speech, um if you make that priority, does that cost money?
Text to Speech Shenanigans
SPEAKER_02No, so I have I have two different ways of doing text of speech. One is if you send bits, donations, or super chat paid, you get text of speech free, unlimited whenever you want. Uh, the other one is you have to use channel points, and that works. Channel points is if you watch a stream for a certain amount of time, you'll just build channel points up and you can use them to do stuff. One of the things I have set up is text of speech. You can use 333 channel points for text of speech, it's free, you just have to use them. There's a 60-second cooldown because it's really annoying, honestly, because it's either a one-minute cooldown or no cooldown. And if you put it on no cooldown, you get fucking spammed. Oh, I'm sure instantly. Yeah, so I kind of have to have that cooldown. Otherwise, that's why I have like if you want to send unlimited shit, you gotta send some money because yeah, like I've done some like things before where like I hit um 50 subs at one point on a stream like years ago, and I put text of speech on no cooldown for like 10 minutes, and it was genuinely hell. Um the thing will they overlap? Um, the the twit the like channel points text of speech and donation text of speech will. So it doesn't happen often because not I don't get that many donations, but it sometimes happens. Uh if I do get to a point on streaming where I'm getting a lot more donations, I will probably turn off the channel points text of speech just because it'll be kind of nightmarish, or like at least up the channel points price for it so it happens less often. Um, but no, that's honestly the text of speech on no cooldown. Because what you can do as well with the text of speech I have, I've said text of speech so many times. The TTS I have, uh, you can change like the the voice actors like language, so you can and but not the language, just like the accent. So you can like have like an English American speaker or an Australian speaker, you can also make them German or French or Japanese or Chinese, and um and it's still English. The people sending the chats, it just changes the accent, and some of them cut some of them are like we really really funny, unfortunately. Um, yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, some some of them, unfortunately. The German one specifically was really funny. Um, I didn't expect the German one to be quite good. Um, but German was really good. Japanese was quite funny with Japanese, it's just a very funny language with English words. Because like it sounds so racist, but generally the best way to like say things to Japanese people is to say it in like kind of a racist accent, and they will understand it better. Like it's been proven. If you say like McDonald's rather than McDonald's, they will understand the second one better.
SPEAKER_00It just sounds bad. There's a lot of Japanese words that were taken from English where they where it's just like let's throw our accent on here, and that's the word.
SPEAKER_02Pretty much it's because the way their language is written, everything is like in English terms, everything's a consonant with a vowel afterwards. Like every letter is like too sure. There's no like hard things, all like flowy. Um, but it's really funny. Like, like DV, like my favorite Japanese words for D V D player, they just say D D I can't even do it, D B D player. Like they do it with like more accents than I can do. It's it's so funny, yeah. Um, like at this point, half their language is just honestly. I think you can get by in Japan just by speaking full English with an accent. I generally think you'd be fine with like younger people, you could probably get by. Yeah, which is great. Yeah, um, I think I know I think I know a lot of um I've seen a lot of like Korean is going that way as well because a Korean is kind of like the new Japan, I feel like, with like K-pop being like very like uh yeah, like very fan popularized, popularized, yeah. Because people like love Japan because of anime. The same things happen to K-pop and like Korean um culture.
SPEAKER_00So I think they dramas are really popular here. I know a decent amount of people that watch K-dramas.
SPEAKER_02Yep, they're very, very popular. So I think they're getting kind of like Americanized as well. They're using a lot of English words in their language. Okay, Koreans also just a very cool language. I'm getting off topic. Let's get back to streaming.
Big Highlights From the Stream
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Okay, I do have a question for you. Um, did you notice over the the long weekend, were there any like certain moments that really stood out? Um, and maybe even in relation to like the Twitch platform of like if there were people commenting with you or if there was just like a really funny interaction?
SPEAKER_02I think so, in terms of like stats, I guess the first thing that comes to mind, the first thing that that stood out was I think my peak viewership ever before this weekend was like 250 or something on Twitch. So we broke that on the first stream within like an hour or something. Yeah, and I was like, damn. I ex I like I expected the Twitch stream to do well. Obviously, could have never predicted predicted how well. So like that was crazy. Um then I don't know what came next, but I broke a hundred subs on Twitch, which is paid subscriptions, not free, uh, for the first time. I think the most I'd ever had before was like 91 or something. Something so breaking a hundred was like I was like damn um I so like during that um when I hit 100 I gifted 10 subs to my viewers because I was like just as a celebration give them some because it having subs on Twitch means you have no ads, so it's just kind of nice for people. Um but also during that I have like a lot of really great viewers that donate quite a bit. Mad's hockey girl, probably the biggest donator. She donated like 10 or 20 subs that day to help get to that goal. Um, so that was huge. Then a bit after that, we hit 1k viewers for the first time, and every sort of like new big viewer milestone from that point on was just like still mind-blowing. Um I'm kind of like I'm kind of accustomed to it now. So when I like when I logged on the third day and I got to like 2k, I was like, cool, that's expected. So like whatever. This is the norm for me now. Exactly. Um, it's gonna be real depressing when I start stream three weeks from now and I get 20 viewers. Uh but like yeah, no, each new big viewer milestone was just like uh kind of mind-blowing, uh honestly. And then I think another cool moment was I didn't ask beforehand, but when um I was streaming so Saturday, the really long stream, I was planning on getting off. I was literally like, alright, guys, about to end the stream, and then TGG started streaming. I'm like, fuck. I was planning on asking to dual stream with him for a bit. Did he have to get on this fucking late? So like it's like I had uh I kind of asked him in his chat, and then we got on. And I'd done a video with him before the Jeopardy video that went up a few weeks ago. Uh, but I'd never done a solo, a solo thing with him. And also, if you know me, you know me. The chat, the chat I'm in streamer mode. The viewers might not know me. Chat, you know me, you know me. I'm not the most uh socially comfortable person with like just meeting a new person, striking up a conversation with them. That's not me. It takes me a while to like open up and be comfortable. So, like just getting on stream, calling someone with like one minute notice and just doing a three-hour thing with them, kind of scary um to me. But I it went really well. I think it kind of helped that I was, I guess, in streamer mode already. Sure, yeah. I think I'd be more nervous if it was not on stream, to be honest. I think having the chat there to like talk to and like have it more on like a professional setting makes it easier for me. Um, but like that that experience was like really cool. I mean, the fact that I'm I know I've been doing this for like nearly four years now, still doesn't feel like I'm a pro. I'm done, I don't know. Yeah, so the fact that I'm like collaborating relatively easy, easily and consistently with like these bigger creators is I mean, I guess I am one of the bigger creators in GTA now, but it's still very, very cool um to get that done, honestly. So that was definitely one of the better moments. In terms of like standout chatters, I mean that that troll on last night stream or hater, I don't even know what to call them. Um, that was funny. Uh I I I enjoyed that back and forth. Um, I think obviously you always deal with like the people just being disrespectful and rude. I had to ban like a couple of people. I think my mods had to ban a couple of people. Um, I think there was one person that came in and started like uh preaching about politics and stuff, uh like and I was like, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but like we're playing GTA hide and seek right now, it's not really the time for it, my guy. Yeah, and then that's not the place. And then when my mod uh told them, like, hey, uh my mod told them like hey, please stop, but then they went away to do something, and I was like, hey, I just I didn't like acknowledge it for the longest time. Um, but then I finally did, and so like, hey, don't disagree with what you're saying, not the time to talk about it, please stop. And then they kept saying it, and then they said to my mod, can't say these words, I can't say these words, but they said, like, you are a gay, the other gay word, the sure gay word. Um they said slurs, like kill yourself, that type of stuff. I was like, Alright, I don't I don't mind the politic talk. I'll I can time you out. This is just a band. You're just gone. Just bad, just gone, just no need for it. Like I well, I think apart from one, all my mods are girls, and I'm a girls' girl, and I protect them from uh from the awful men online. So pro-feminist uh Dan over here. Exactly. Uh, so that's I mean it it sounds bad that the negative things stick out in my head, but like it's because there's so few of them compared to all the positives that kind of just blend together into like a good experience. I mean, there's so there's so many good things. The people that say funny stuff. Um, a lot of I mean, I I think I've talked about it on the podcast before, but God, the amount of people that ask the same like three or four dumb questions over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, it it gets a bit jarring. Um, I so there's one thing about GTA that you'll know that it's not cross-platform, right? Like, you can't like play PC, PS5, PS4, PS5. So so many people come into the stream and ask, hey, can I play with you? Or like, how can I play with you, or I'm on PS4, can I play with you? Some variant of that question. Sure. And I try to be nice and and say, I'm on PS5, join the crew if you want to join the lobby, but I can only say it so many times. Obviously, I have mods and other viewers that help out and try and sand chat as well. Yeah, but also the type of people that ask really basic questions like that don't typically read, I find. So I kind of have to say it myself a lot. So, what I've done, um, this is gonna fuck up the podcast screen for a bit, but just give me a second. What I've done is don't even edit the chat, it's fine. What I've done is I've brought a little text thing here. It's not gonna look the same as it doesn't stream, but you should be able to like read it on the podcast. Uh it says, it's like white text with a red outline, you'll be able to see on the podcast. And when you edit on the chat, it says, I am on PS5, GTA Online is not cross-platform in full caps. So when people ask the question, I flash this like like a like an alert, giving them like an epileptic shock, so they realize what the like if you're on any other console, you can't join. Um and I make I make some I make fun out of it. I I know there's a lot of people that are like younger or generally don't understand, but from my point of view, I'm like, this game has been out for so long.
SPEAKER_00Surely we realize that by this point, like you've answered this question a billion times.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's also yeah, I I've mentioned my biggest pet pee before. It's first of all, it's people not waiting for you to get out of the elevator before they go in. Get I get inhumanely angry, and then second of all Dan has punched a person because of it. Multiple and then just fully seen red whole whole nine years. Precisely, and then secondly, my next biggest pet peeve is when people like ask they go to a person to ask a question that could have been figured out in a two-second Google search. When people try when people try to ask others for things they could have figured out themselves very easily, I don't mind asking someone for help when you've when you're really struggling and you haven't been able to do something, or you know for a fact, like asking them will be quicker because it's like a really specific question, I guess, or an opinion. But when it's like how do I join a crew in GTA, you can type that question in your Google and it will tell you how to do it. So, and then also people have said, Why don't I put in my channel description like a frequently asked questions thing? And I always say, like, I could, but also the people that ask those questions are not gonna scroll down on the channel to read it. I I guarantee you they will not. I promise you. So there's there's sort of no point. I like it's it's funny, like it's it's one of the quirks of streaming, you just deal with it. Um, I don't know how other streamers deal with it. When I was streaming with TGG, I was sort of asking him, like, how do you get these questions? How do you respond? And he sort of responds the same way as me to most of it. Uh, another one of the big questions is like, Do you get bored of playing GTA? I'm like, Yes, but I get paid to play it, so I kind of keep doing it.
SPEAKER_00I get bored walking into my job, but they keep paying me, so I keep showing up. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02Um, yeah, yeah. I try and I try and keep the stream mostly entertaining and light hard and funny. I end up saying a lot of dumb shit because my my mouth works faster than my brain. Um not cancelable shit, yeah, but dumb shit. That's not yet. Not yet. I'm still working on it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he's he's he's waiting. I'm waiting.
SPEAKER_02Um I am I'm ready just to one day you're gonna you're gonna start recording like an hour before we actually start the podcast and catch me out on something.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. I'm I just just right before we record, like, so Dan, what do you how do you feel about minorities? Just really, just like really poking. Yeah. No comments, just really going into it, yeah. Or just be like, I just hold up like uh a whiteboard with some, you know, just something terrible. And I'm like, Dan, could you read this back to me? Uh and then just edit it out of context. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um yeah, but uh yeah, I think just the memorable memorable moments were just like the hitting the goals, people being really kind and donating like big amounts of a gifted subs and stuff. Um, the stream with TG, uh getting to the top of the GTA category was insane. Because for a while I was second, and the person in first was apparently was apparently like a Russian RP server that bots views, so they're above me for a while, but then they stopped streaming, so I I was first. Just kind of insane because uh the GTA, this is a big gripe I have with Twitch. The GTA 5 category on Twitch is all GTA 5 stuff in one, so RP, single player, and online are all in one category when they really should be three separate categories, yeah. Um like because like Call of Duty multiplayer and war zone are different categories. Why can't GTA online and RP be different? Because they're very much different entities, they're different, they're definitely different. Um, but yeah, no, it was it was a really, really good experience. I mean, this the event's still going till April 15th, so I still have another week and a half of doing this basically. And I'm gonna try and stream most days because I mean I'm sure we can get into this, but the way Twitch works is that more so than literally anything, consistency and uptime are the most important things by far. Um being live for longer is almost more important than having a more interesting live stream.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because the longer you stay on there, the more views you get, and just kind of sit there, the higher you get in the view ranks, and the higher you get in the view ranks, it's easier to be discovered, and you start with the snowball, like I kind of talked about earlier.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, being being live every day, having all my new vol followers. Sorry, I am gassy. Um thank you. Having all the new viewers coming back day after day to watch you because they followed you the day before and they like your content or they know you're doing drops, is very important for keeping the the ball rolling, basically. It's kind of like a real job almost.
Streaming With Other People
SPEAKER_00Little bit. Yeah, if you don't keep showing up to work, you usually don't get paid. Yeah. Uh or keep your job. Um, I am curious, what does it look like when you start streaming with another person? Like, what's that process? Like, does it do you like hit them up privately and you join a call? Is it something through Twitch itself? Uh when you play with TGG, did you end up like were you were I'm assuming you played with him and didn't Yeah, we were both on PS5.
SPEAKER_02We play the Doomsday Heist Act three, the final act.
SPEAKER_00Okay, yes. Um, so what does that look like when you're like you're streaming and you're like, oh, TGG is streaming, let me hit him up? Like, what's kind of that process like?
SPEAKER_02So it's the first time I've done it, and it was actually kind of a lot more complicated than I was expecting. Okay so I mean it it sounds simple, but it was I'll explain why it was annoying. So what happens? You're streaming, uh, you see your friend or someone you want to stream as online, you click on their live stream, and if you're also streaming, you'll see a little thing next to their name that says knock, and basically you knock on their stream as a request to join their stream with them. And if they accept, a a new little tab will open, and it'll basically open, which I didn't realize this would happen. It basically opens like a little Discord call, um, and you connect mic audio through that. So I didn't realize me and TGG didn't realize this. We'd already gotten in a Discord call and started talking before we combined the streams. Yeah, so we just muted the the Twitch like multi-stream new call, I guess. We just muted that. Uh the reason why it was complicated is that I use Opera GX for all of my YouTube stuff. So for Twitch, YouTube, all my business stuff relating to that, I use the Opera GX browser, and then for personal stuff, I use Google Chrome. Um, for some fucking reason, the Twitch knock multi-stream feature doesn't work on Opera GX. So I had to log into my Twitch on Chrome, which I hadn't had logged in there before because I keep my business email separate, and then go on there and then knock on Chrome and then go back to Twitch to use my stream. So that was kind of annoying. Um, so I honestly I might look to switch unless they get it put on opera soon. I don't know. Um, but yeah, relatively for the most part, it's easy. You stream, you click knock on someone's stream, if they accept uh your I don't think your chats combined, but just your viewer numbers combined. There's still some nuances of it I don't fully understand. I think it's basically just meant to be if you're two smaller streamers, or you're just two streamers in general, you basically help each other get up that rank on the Twitch leaderboard because you're combined of your ship. If you have 50 subs and you have a friend that's 300 and you both stream together, it's gonna help both of you be seen, basically, is the gist of it. Um it's kind of cool. Um, I I I enjoyed doing it. I think I I'll be down to do it uh more with other people as well. I think I think collaboration, I've always thought collaboration is the best way to have a long career doing honestly any media field, really, but especially like YouTube and Twitch, because you look at people like the Sidemen and stuff, like the whole entire UK like YouTube sphere are also like successful because they all just do so much content together all the time. Yeah, you go you go watch a Chris MD video, and you just see every other UK youtuber in there playing football. Um and I and I kind of want to start doing that with GTA a lot more. Like I've been I've reached out to or I've had I've reached out and had other GTA YouTubers reach out to me a lot more recently about doing stuff together, and I want to keep that up. I don't know, not not many people stream on Twitch, it's kind of like just me, TGG, and a couple others. Um I don't think YouTube has multi-streaming like Twitch does, they have the multi-video thing, but yeah, for Twitch, for Twitch it's pretty good to be honest.
SPEAKER_00So when you guys both stream, and I I might have missed it within all the information, it only shows one or the other when you do the like stream together thing, or is there a way to see both at the same time?
SPEAKER_02Not that I know of.
SPEAKER_00Um I didn't think so.
SPEAKER_02I feel like I've seen something about that before. Um I mean, I think I know what some some viewers might do if they have like two monitors, even one monitor, you put both streams side by side and just mute one so you hear the the voice of both people, but yeah. Um but I think for the most part, people be like watching me and they can just hear TGG in the background or vice versa.
SPEAKER_00How is the voice chat within Switch or Switch? Twitch, uh between I guess you and TGG in this case, but like how good was the voice chat? Uh we use Discord.
SPEAKER_02I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_02We just use Discord.
SPEAKER_00But it's still recorded both. Does it have a chat where you don't have to get on Discord and you can go through Twitch?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it does. It basically, like I said, it opens up like another window on Chrome and it has like a call, kind of like the call wherein now. It just opens up something like that. So you can use mic face cam. Um but no, I just use we just used uh Discord and then we linked the Discord audio in our OBS, like I do for this podcast. You know the third audio track that comes up that has both our voices or like your voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like that. We just linked it like that. Uh no, Twitch might be easier. Um, we didn't work it out, we just used Discord. I think Discord's easier when you're closer with a person and friends. If like a random smaller streamer knocked on your stream and you don't know them, maybe it's better to go through that because then you don't need to add them on Discord, it's just a lot chiller, but that's what that's what we did at least for that time. And it worked pretty much perfectly, really. Sweet.
SPEAKER_00Okay, and then when someone watches your stream, they see your screen, but they still hear both of you because yeah, both of your voices are going through Twitch. Okay, I mean that's that's pretty sweet.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, it was it was pretty good. I mean, it was just a good ex good way to uh I mean okay, there I there's one difficult thing about doing a duel or like a stream with another person, is that obviously when you're speaking with someone else, you start to ignore chat way, way more. Yeah, because it's really difficult to speak with chat and speak to the person, especially because we were talking like kind of constantly the whole time about like GTS6 and other stuff. I think when you go from streaming solo to streaming with someone, the focus changes from it's me interacting with chat to it's me making content with another creator, and when you're doing that, you can't really focus on chat that much. You will obviously I'll still thank people for subscribing. I have a little button on my uh Stream Deck uh thing, it's like a physical device that can like mute my Discord mic for a bit. So I'll like mute my Discord mic and say thank you for a sub. Uh, if there's a really interesting comment or something funny, or there's a uh a lull in the conversation between me and the other streamer, I'll respond to chat quickly. Um, but for the most part, it's me speaking to him. So you do get to the chat a little bit more annoyed, like, oh he doesn't respond to us. Like, why is he why is he not talking? Yeah, I think it's just part of the dynamic, really. Um, that that changes a lot. Uh it was a nice it was a nice change of pace, definitely, going from a sort of a one-way relationship with me in the chat. Like, I'm speaking, but they are speaking back, but it's not the same, to you know, back and forth on that. Uh, I think both are really good. I think doing a bit of both is nice. Uh I enjoyed equally both uh experiences really. I think dual streaming is definitely something I'd want to do a lot more with other people. I think I'm trying to get uh more people convinced to do streaming because it is quite fun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's it it I feel like it helps vary things if you're not just recording videos. I think it makes it a little I don't want to say it's lonely, but like and it's not like you're having necessarily full-on conversations with people, but like when you stream, it's a little bit more social. Of there's people who are actively watching you, actively talking to you. It's not the same as like me and you talking to each other, but like you said, you interact at least to a degree where I think if you just record YouTube videos, it can be a little bit lonelier. It does, and it's a good way, yeah, it's a good way to just switch things up and like keep things a little fresh.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like there's been some days where I've been like feeling a little bit down or a little bit lonely, like you said about some things. You hop on stream and especially the people that come back every single time and you see their name and they talk to you again, it does feel like you know talking to a friend again. Um, and it does help cheer you up when you have a lot of positive comments. People like when you start up a stream and within five seconds there's 10 messages saying, Hey Dan, hell yeah, the stream's on. It does rise in your mood a lot compared to when I'm already feeling kind of shit and I go, Fuck, I have to grind$10 million for a video right now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like it's alone with no one to support you.
SPEAKER_02It's definitely a different vibe. So I think it definitely uh uh honestly, I think I've told you before and I've said it, I'm the type of person that really needs to be in the right mood to record a video, otherwise it's just gonna be bad. I think streaming is sort of a way to get around that. I I kind of need to be in the right mood in terms of like not having a headache or not feeling tired, like completely shit to stream, but I don't need to be super happy and up to stream because once I start within half an hour of having chat and people messaging and stuff, I will usually get a little bit more energetic from the feedback and all that. Yeah, whereas when you're recording a video, I kind of just slump down. There's no there's no real up in the video, I just get more and more tired.
SPEAKER_00I think being around people can definitely help you like get out of a funk. And even if it's not physically being around people, but like streaming with people they're watching and responding to, you can kind of be like you can kind of get out of it, which is a nice thing. Kind of a weird positive side effect.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um, also apologies if my camera keeps going in and out of focus. I've been having issues. Uh I just noticed it on the side of my screen. Yeah, the people don't need to see me. It's fine.
SPEAKER_00They don't need to see. Hey, you know what? When you go out of focus, they they can they can look back and be like, oh yeah, Chad's here.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they can remember there's another person.
SPEAKER_00They can remember there's another person.
SPEAKER_02I will say another similar to the thing about getting the right mood for streaming, I think streaming with face cam has started to help a lot with I don't have any real like self image issues whatsoever. But there are some times where I'm recording a video with face cam. If I'm having a day where I feel like I look a bit shit, my hair's just not working, or you know, I'm feeling lazy and didn't want to shave and make myself look pristine. Uh, I think streaming. More so daily gets me more into the mindset of like trying to one like look my best, like shave and and style my hair and shit more often, but also it gets me more comfortable with the fact that like you're not gonna look fucking perfect for camera every day. Also, no one really cares if you look perfect every day. Yeah, uh, just get on record because there are some videos where I I wanted to record that day, but I like looked I I felt like my hair was just ass or something, and I was like, nah, I'm recording tomorrow, can't be asked. Uh but I think streaming helps um get you more into the routine of just like this is just who I be, uh both in terms of looks and personality. If I'm having an off day, that's also just part of how I am. Fucking deal with it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think I think it's I think it depends on your personality, right? Streaming and YouTube, it can also kill your self-image and self-worth if you have a weak personality or if you get really bad feedback, but it can also be really helpful at the same time.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Weirdly positive side effects of Twitch streaming that I was not expecting. And honestly, I'm I'm very welcoming to it.
Raiding Other Streamers
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's not gonna be the same for everyone, of course. There are gonna be some people that stream and uh and get really insecure and have a lot of anxiety about it, but I think it's actually helped me more than anything, to be honest.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02Oh, sorry. That's I want I do want to move back to one thing. Oh I want to move back to one thing. You mentioned what moments throughout the three days were like some of my favorite moments. Uh one thing. So at the end of the first day, uh on Twitch you can raid people. So once your stream's done, you can send all of your viewers to another streamer. And on the first day, uh, when I had about three and a half thousand viewers, uh, I was like, okay, I want to raid someone at the end of the stream, but there's like no one playing GTA online right now. Everyone's playing fucking RP. So I had some of my viewers go out and try and find someone that I could raid. And I can't remember who found them, but someone found a guy called Holmes and Five. He was another Australian, so that was a positive. And he was a variety creator, but he was currently streaming the GTA story mode. He was on he was probably on the least interesting mission and most hated mission in the entire game. So it's really bad timing for for a stream raid. It was the mission where um chat will know, chat viewers will know this, where you basically are working on a shipping dock and moving containers around for like half an hour. It's really boring. Oh god, it's real dead. Um, but they found this guy. I he had like I don't want to uh dis I don't want to say his numbers wrong. I think he had between 10 and 20 viewers at the time. He had like 6k followers, but he only like had like 10 to 20 viewers at that time. Sure. And I rated him with like three and a half thousand people. Nice um, and it was like seeing because I've I've I always like like helping out people like with smaller followings or like that seem less than that. Sounds bad saying it, but like back in the day when I played COD, I'd send friend requests to people who are lower level than me to try and help them when I was like 12. Yeah, um, I like it's I it's it's fun. So like seeing like the reaction on his face when three and a half thousand people come in the chat, and like some of my viewers like subbed to him. Uh, the a lot of people followed the viewers stayed around for quite a while, like a good amount of them. Um, so like seeing his reaction to that was just like really, really cool. Uh, he was a much better streamer than I was. He had like like sound effects, like visual effects, everything set up here. The fucking kazoo he was playing when people subbed to him. He was he was he was fucking sick. So definitely found a good person to raid, and that was like one of my favorite moments over the past few days. I didn't raid anyone the second day because I sent my viewers to TGG after the dual stream because I got off first. Okay, and then yesterday I kind of just forgot, to be honest. Um, but I will try and I I I like to try and do it every stream. Again, sometimes there's not really someone online that would make sense to raid. I know I could raid a non-GTA creator, but I also when I do raid, I would like the viewers to try and stay as much as long as possible with the person. If I raid someone playing RuneScape, they're probably not gonna stay. So, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Try my best, yeah. I I have a segue that coming from that guy's uh setup, but I had a quick question. So essentially, I really just clarifying. So when you raid someone, it's that you end your stream and it just moves everyone over to another person's stream, including yourself.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, including yourself. So you basically there's a button on my back end that says raid channel. You find the channel, you click it, it gives like a 10-second countdown for all the people to get ready to raid them. Then I click go. Every single person that was watching my stream, including me, gets sent over to theirs. Uh, it comes up in their chat, like Lang Madan raided you with 3,000 viewers and like the fireworks go off and shit. And you see their chat just start to go fucking wild and everything. Um, so it's it's really cool. I I get raided by a few people in my stream, usually it's by people with like one to ten viewers, but it's still always nice to see people come over. Yeah, um, it's also it's sometimes people use it as a reverse strategy. If someone with 10 viewers raids a really big streamer, it's to try and get their name out there a bit, which sometimes works. Um, depends.
SPEAKER_00Makes sense, but then I because I'm sure on your end, like you said, it says like Link Man Dan raided this person. And if you had 10 people watching at that point and you wanted to like yeah, they'd see your name pop up, so it's at least some form of recognition.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and then and then you obviously would hope like if a smaller GTA YouTuber raids me, you'd maybe hope that I see them and I would raid them back next time or something like that.
SPEAKER_00Or you yeah, you shout them out or something like that.
SPEAKER_02Which doesn't always happen, but I mean, I try also try and raid people that one play the same game and two look like they're really trying to make their stream good. If someone is just has no face cam, no nothing, just the gameplay barely speaking. I don't really want to raid them because no one's gonna stick around. Sure, you want to raid someone that looks like they're really trying that has a good stream, you know. And the Holmes and Five guy had a very good stream, so I was happy with that.
Dan’s Stream Setup
SPEAKER_00Nice, yeah. Um I think final question for you, because I think it'll kind of take us to the end. Uh what does your setup look like? Like, kind of how much I guess like a back end do you have, and what kind of do you use when you stream? Because again, I don't stream, so I don't have a whole lot of yeah, information behind it. So, like, what kind of can you do? And like, you know, what buttons do you have? What kind of automatic stuff do you have? I'm I'm curious kind of what it looks like.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so my stream's relatively basic compared to proper streamers, but I basically have my setup up right now. So on my main monitor in the middle, I have currently Discord. Uh, usually that would be GTA, would be in the middle monitor. On my right, I currently have OBS, which is the software you use to record everything, basically. Uh, I have on the left of OBS, the closest to my middle monitor, I have chat, which is YouTube and Twitch chat combined, so I can read all my messages. Right next to that, I have activity, which is basically shows when people donate, when people uh use text and speech, what the message was. I have other things that's like people can use a thousand channel points to tell me to uh have good posture and I sit up straight so I don't slouch over. I have one that reminds me to drink water or reminds me to blink because I forget to blink because I'm weird. Um then I have just a video, like a video footage. You use OBS, just like the video of like what my viewers see so I can make sure it looks all good. Then I have different scenes. I have a scene that's like full face cam. Uh, like you see now. I have like chat on the side, I have notifications that pop up like up on my head somewhere, um, and a few other things. I've also added now a because I've started playing copyrighted music recently on stream, there's ways to do it without getting taken down. Uh, I have like a little widget that shows what songs playing, so people can always see what's what's crack a lacking, you know. Nice. Um, and then I have another scene that's like the game, my face cam. I have a little thing that says how many subs I have, but it doesn't update automatically for some reason. I need to figure out how to make it update automatically. I have to like refresh it every time I get a new sub, it's really annoying. Um, but I have like chat underneath my face cam, that type of stuff. So looks pretty looks pretty good. You can go see it if you want to. Um, and then I have so built into OBS, I have a multi-stream setup. So once I click, I can click to go live on Twitch, I can click to go live on YouTube, and I can click to record, or I can click to do all three. Um, or just stream and not record, or just record, not stream, you know, any of the variants. Uh one stream gets sent to Twitch, and then one stream gets set sent to YouTube. They are separate streams because you can stream to a higher quality on YouTube than Twitch allows. Twitch only allows up to 6,000 bit rate, and then YouTube you can do up to like 30,000 or fucking higher. Um, and then on so that's basically that's all OBSs, and then usually on this window I'll have Discord as well in case I need to check something. Blah blah blah. Then on my left monitor is where I'll have Spotify if I need music, but usually it'll be YouTube or Twitch open. I have them both on my Opera GX browser. If it's YouTube open, it's just to check like uh super chats to see what people wrote, or if I need to ban someone on the YouTube chat, I can do that. Sure. Or I'll have Twitch open, which I have. It's kind of similar to OBS. There's a chat there, there's an activity feed there, very similar to what I have on this monitor, but it's just there. Um, then I have quick actions, which is more like the buttons there. I can that's where I can click to raid, that's where I can click to stream together with someone. I can make you can on Twitch, it's much more interactive. You can make like predictions. So my mods can do like, is Dan gonna finish this heist on the first attempt? And then they people bet channel points. And if I do it, they can win or lose, basically. Yeah, so it's a way to get more channel points. I think on average you get around 240 channel points an hour if you're not subscribed, and like 400 if you are subbed. So if you want to get more, that's a good way to do it. You can also do polls if you want to ask people questions and want an easy response. There's a few other things as well. You can create clips on Twitch. So if you're streaming, I also have on my stream deck below me. I have a lot of different buttons, uh, including like turning on and off my lights, uh, switching audio from my headphones to speakers, upping and lowering the audio. Uh, then I can also change my scenes like from face cam to gameplay through this here, so it's quite easy to do. I can create a clip on Twitch. So if something funny happens, I click a button, it records it makes a clip of the last 60 seconds of what happened in the stream. So I uploaded like a little short yesterday on TikTok on YouTube of me uh having a very cold moment, which is not which is not cold lords.
SPEAKER_00I saw it. I saw that.
SPEAKER_02Yep. Um, so that's good.
SPEAKER_00Real smooth.
SPEAKER_02There's a lot more you can do with streams, really. There's people have shit set up way, way more set up than me. Mine's relatively bare bones, but it gets the job done for the most part. Um, I would like more emotes. Uh, I probably would like to have like if someone subs rather than just like the default sound, maybe like a unique sound effect to me or something. But those things will come with time, I'm sure, as I stream more and more often. That's kind of how it is at the moment. Um, I keep it basic because my shit breaks so often and I often have to reset it. So setting it back up is a nightmare. So keeping it as simple as possible is good. I also use an app called for the multi-chat, I use an app called Social Stream Ninja, which combines the two chats into one basically. And you can customize kind of how it looks. Mm-hmm. That's that's the gist of that.
SPEAKER_00How long do you think it took to kind of get you where you are setup wise? Not like viewership or whatever, but just like, you know, have you had this stream set up for a while? Do you think it took you like you know 20, 30? I don't even know an exact number, but like honestly, do you think it took a quite a bit of streams to get there?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's been well because I stream so infrequently, there's been multiple times where I didn't stream for six months and then forgot how I set up everything and had to relearn everything. So to get to the point where I am now, we'll have it set up pretty much the best I've had it. It's been like two years or something. It shouldn't take that long, but again, I keep forgetting how my like I forgot how my notifications worked for like two for like a year, and then I figured out how I did them again and then set them back up. So it took a lot longer than it really should have, but I think I'm roughly there now. What I will do now is if I have to reset my piece to something, I'm gonna write down all the apps and services I use so I don't forget them because it's very easy to smart, smart, yeah.
The Future Of Streaming With Dan
SPEAKER_00Yeah, fair enough. Um I mean I guess I guess unrelated to I was gonna say the final thing about streaming we could mention is uh going forward.
SPEAKER_02I mean, like stream, I've said before streaming could be a way forward for me in the in the like long future because it's yeah, in one way it's lower effort without the the editing and like also it's a lot easier to get on a stream and just kind of bullshit for seven hours than it is with YouTube where you kind of have to have a good video ID and execute it well. Yeah, like makes sense. The past three streams I've done sort of nothing, to be honest. I've just done races and done heists randomly. Whereas every YouTube video, you have to come up with the the the right topic, get the right thumbnail and title, and make sure it's all good and nice and dandy. Yeah, so streaming is a lot more chill, to be honest. And I think I was talking with TGG on stream about this, about like when GTS6 comes out, what what's the plan of attack? And I think honestly, I think there's gonna be a lot of people, probably like millions, streaming that game, doing marathons as soon as it comes out. And I think even though I'll be one of many doing it, I think being in the pack of like doing like a 24-hour live stream or at least like 12 hours a day for a week straight or something, probably is the right idea, even though it will be exhausting as hell. I also think the excitement will probably just carry me through, to be honest. Yeah, you won't want to stop playing. Like I I I when Baldur's Gate 3 came out, or like when I get back into playing Skyrim mod packs, I can sit there for 12 hours. It's not difficult when you're really excited.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, when it's a new game and there's a ton of excitement around it, and you're and you have you know, you haven't played it before, and it is truly new and it's truly exciting, it's so much easier to just like throw hours and hours and hours of time. It'll be a lot easier than GTA 5, considering it's been out for so long.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and the big thing as well is when you have like thousands and thousands of people watching you, you have a lot of pressure to keep going. It's not negative pressure, it's good pressure, but it's like it's like a bunch of people willing you on. It's like it's difficult to leave, especially because you see the numbers consistently go up the longer you stream. It's a bit of a toxic thing. That's why you have streamers like XQC who stream for like 16 hours a day constantly, because uh these numbers just keep going up the longer you go, you know. Yeah, um, but you gotta get a call at some point, obviously. Um, that's like kind of one of the negatives. I'd say the big negative I'm concerned about for GTS6 streaming is that spoilers uh could could be rough. Like, I'm gonna have to just not read chat for the whole foot playthrough, like probably, because there's gonna be someone that finishes the game and like seven hours speed running it, and I'm gonna be down there in 20 hours and trying not to get spoiled.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that is true. I god, I didn't even think about that of someone just spoiling it for you. Yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe you can have it. I was like, I don't know if you could set up a way where it gets auto like so there's a there are a few things you can do.
SPEAKER_02You can do this, so there's one thing that's emoji-only, so you can literally set it up so people can only use emojis, no chat, no text. On Twitch and YouTube, you can also do sub-only chat, so only people who have paid to be there can type. Yeah, which typically is people that care more about you and are nice, yeah.
SPEAKER_00They're just likely to spoil it.
SPEAKER_02So that might be a thing. So I'm planning to do my first ever Red Dead Redemption 2 playthrough at some point. Nice. And I've already I already know kind of the biggest spoiler, but there's probably a lot of other stuff I don't know. And I'm gonna that'll be sort of a test to run to see how bad it's gonna be to avoid spoilers while streaming. It might be a thing if I might just have to generally not look at chat or use sub-only mode or something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, sub-only mode isn't a bad idea because if you get to a point where you have a ton more people watching than you have in the past, that might honestly just be good for the sake of like there's so many people chatting, you just won't be able to keep up, anyways, even if they're not spoiling.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and then I also obviously have like mods that can help filter out messages and stuff. Um, but the way the only annoying thing about the way my multi-chat works is that it picks up the messages instantly and sends them over to my multi-chat system. So even if my mod or the auto mod on Twitch like deletes a message for being like I don't know, racist or something, I will still see it and it will still show up, even though it gets deleted from Twitch. So I don't know, there's probably better systems to do it. I'll have to figure that out.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02Fair enough. Um, yeah. What was your what was your off-topic thing you were gonna mention?
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. My last question was, and it'll be kind of a quick one, was like, what was the marketing like for this weekend? Like I because you had a bunch more people um watching you than normal. Do you think that was you marketing, you know, marketing, putting out on YouTube and socials, like, hey, I'm streaming, there's this drop this weekend, or do you think that was more Rockstar?
SPEAKER_02Um, I didn't do that much. I obviously had in my stream title, like uh get free money and stuff. Yeah. And I put out a post on Friday with a screenshot of the Twitch drops page saying what the rewards were, how to get them. That's all I did. And I think the marketing from Rockstar wasn't even anything crazy. It was kind of just it was like it was like any other weekly update. They have a newswire, they put it out on Twitter and Instagram, like this is what's happening this week. They have it on um when you log into the game, that sort of homepage, they have like the neighborhood watch event. I don't even know if it says on there uh that twitch drops is a thing. Um, like I go onto the I'm on the Rockstar Newswire right now for the GTA Online April 2nd. Protect Los Santos and acquire new law enforcement vehicles during the latest neighborhood watch event. It doesn't even say twitch drops in the title, uh, doesn't say it in the subtitle, doesn't say it in the first two paragraphs. Um not the next three paragraphs. Dang. I don't even see where it says it at all on on the newswire. Like, like actually at all. It doesn't mention it, does it? At the very okay, at the very bottom, the last thing in the newswire on the w official website, it says watch top streamers lay down the law on Twitch during our neighborhood watch event to earn up to a million dollars in the outfit between these dates. I uh they definitely would have tweeted about it, put it on Instagram. So it wasn't like rock star rock star is huge, GTA is huge. It was enough marketing to clearly spike the viewership, but it wasn't it wasn't like crazy. I so this event, so the the neighborhood watch event is what they're calling it. The way I see it, I don't think they went very hard on it. I think this is sort of a a test to run for these types of things in the future, probably for GTS6. I think they're trying to probably see how the community reacts to it. They're trying to build up better relations with creators, probably. Um just to yeah, just to just to I think it's more of a test run than anything. Because like realistically, as much as I I'm very grateful to be a part of this and it's been awesome, a million dollars over the course of like two weeks for watching eight hours of a uh stream isn't you know how fast you can make a million dollars in GTA if you really try, it's it's really nothing, and even the exclusive outfit, apparently you can just earn in-game as well if you wanted to. Uh don't quote me on that, but I feel like I heard people say that. So it's not like you couldn't get this stuff just by playing the game for like three hours. Um so I I would like to imagine in the future if they do this thing maybe later in GTA 5 or GTA 6, and it's like actually really big rewards, the numbers will be just ridiculous for these events.
SPEAKER_00I could see it. I could see it. Yeah, I was just curious like how because you got a lot more people. I was curious if Rockstar promoted it. When they promote stuff, do they ever like promote specific YouTubers or no? I don't know.
SPEAKER_02No, so on the so on Twitch, on the back end of Twitch, where the you go to activate drops, um it gives like a little page of like what the drops are. I have an image of it, it's pretty easy for me to find that. So it's like a little just page that says like what's happening, and in this one, it has like summary, get up to one million dollars by watching twitch streamers, blah blah blah. Uh has little images of cash and the outfit. It says what you need to do, make sure the make sure the twitch drops are enabled, play gta 5 to go live. This is for me to do. Um, like make sure dot drops are enabled enabled. Then it says what your community needs to do, and it says go to our participating live channel, including Vegeta777, Quintain Carroll, KBR Speedy, who was a very big creator still, but back in the day more so, uh, Davy Jones and Hi Nass3. So they highlighted five creators there. Okay. So it the way they write it. Makes it sound like they're the only five that participating when that I know that for sure there are more, like me, TGG, a few others. So yeah, they didn't they didn't uh highlight like me specifically or even TGG, but I ended up being like one of the top streamers most times I've been on. So it was clearly enough to to work. Um and I'll be interesting to see because I was talking to my my dad about it, and he's quite interested with the whole like stats and relations side of things, and he was quite interested. Uh I can't say the word, he was quite interested to see uh how the success of my stream could relate to like better relations with people at Rockstar. Like, are they gonna be more willing to work closely due to success, or do they kind of just care about the overall picture? And I don't know. It's it's something to see in the future, I guess.
SPEAKER_00Time will tell.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, time will tell. If I get that early copy of GTA 6, that will be spicy. I don't think I don't think anyone's getting that, by the way. I'd be very shocked if anyone gets an early copy.
SPEAKER_00I could see maybe reviewers get access to an early copy. I feel like Rockstar would be a good one. I'm talking big, like I'm talking like IGN.
SPEAKER_02Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_00But I'm even thinking like I'm I'm talking like big name reviewers, and it's probably not even here's a copy. It's probably come to our headquarters and we'll let you play the game and then review because they usually have people review the games like maybe even up to a couple weeks in advance.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, at the very playing a couple weeks. That's probably what could happen. If they at the very most, I could maybe see them sending out a copy a few days earlier and saying, like, with a contract, if you upload or share any content, we'll sue you for$10 million or some crazy stuff.
SPEAKER_00Sure, sure.
SPEAKER_02Um, but no idea.
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SPEAKER_00Yeah, I could see it. I don't know. I guess I guess time will tell. Um, well, Dan, I I found this very interesting as I don't know much about the world of streaming, so this is very interesting. If any of you guys have any comments or questions, let us know. Yeah, and we might know it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'll I'll I mean I'll try if there's any like more technical questions about the stream or how I went, I'll try and respond to them. Um, or you can just come to the stream because I'll probably be streaming uh the day after this is uploaded. Probably not when this got uploaded because it gets uploaded like yeah midnight for me. Um, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I'll if if you want to see Dan stream more, if you want to see Dan stream less, if you want him to stream something different, let us know in the comments below.
SPEAKER_02If you want me to bring chat on stream as my little guinea pig, that could be fun, and he just kind of sits there and does nothing.
SPEAKER_00I you fly me out to Australia, you get a human-sized guinea pig wheel, and I'm just in the background, just running. And anytime I stop, you just start yelling at me. You st you like pause game like mid-stream, just start berating me.
SPEAKER_02I have a spray bottle like for cats, but it's just mace.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh god. Uh someone would pay a lot of money to watch that. Probably.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's definitely like game.
SPEAKER_00Probably. Yeah. Anyways, uh, that's it for us, guys. Have a great rest of your day. Peace out.